Jerry
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Bill thank you for your replies. And yes, I am painfully aware that nothing happens quick with TPWD, or any government agency. That is why I said now would be a good time to get the ball rolling. OK not rolling, maybe pushing it up the hill. I still think if we were to ask the TU members of GRTU, not here in the LAP section but separately, if they were in support of an artificial only, C&R section of the river that could help extend our fishing season and potentially (hopefully) create a sustainable trout fishery they would be in favor and sign a petition asking for it. I know that Chris, Dan and everybody on the bord is aware of this but having the numbers to back it up will speak louder to TPWD. And if we don’t get the numbers? Well then I guess we are maybe just a “fishing club”.
On the subject of LAP members not reading this forum I know some have stopped because of all the “complaining “ some have said they can’t get on. You are right Bill this is just the tip of the iceberg so it begs the question why does all this stuff happen on here and not on the TU Chapter or a new Guadalupe page (GRTU NEWS)? When I was not a LAP member I felt like a red headed stepchild, or something, because I knew there were things going on in here that I should know. And now I see things on here that I think is singing to the choir and that the GP needs to here it as well.
Anyway I know the plans are to update this site and the forum so that is just my two cent worth.
Thanks again for all Y’all are doing.I too think this would be a good time to get the ball rolling. TPWD has changed the regulations recently on Speckled Trout do to last years freeze so they are capable of changing things rather quickly.
One thing that also needs to be addressed is the use of bait. As I’m sure the warden will agree that is an area of confusion. So we can’t just go C&R only it needs to be the standard “Artificial only” barbless hooks would be nice as well.
How many members are in GRTU? That should be a good start to a petition.As much as I do not want to add fuel to the fire I feel I have to comment, or ask. I can only imagine the conundrum the board is in and what a survey will add to that, but is this survey going to all GRTU members? If it only goes to LAP it is going to be very one sided and will not be fair representation.
Thanks Jimbo, as usual you are a wealth of knowledge.
The thing is this is not just a LAP problem. Our LAP sites are not our own sites, especially in these low flows. I heard one guy at CVC talking to another guy, apparently not his partner, about “I heard you can pay a lot of money to fish these place but I just park and walk”. Or I talked to another guy the other day and he said his neighbor got a little raft so he can fish wherever he wants. So in reality we have become our own worst enemy. We are stocking big trout. We are advertising those big trout, I am getting so tired of GRTU and NBFF advertisements showing large beautiful, gripped rainbows, telling everyone to come and catch one of these beauties! And so they come. (Sorry Dan and Chris and all the guides) And we, the ones paying for it bitch. Quit the ads, promote joining TU FFI, promote proper catch and release and quit putting in large trout. At least until the frenzy dies, along with Covid.
And on the Guide front, most fisheries that I have been around have a limit on guides in different sections of the river. From what I have heard the Guad does not. Plus I have heard that basically all you really need to be a guide is a fishing license and a boat. That too is a lot of our problem and something that should be addressed. Dan, all the Chris’s, I would think all you “legitimate “ guides would want to lobby for restrictions as well. I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
I had an interesting talk wit a friend of mine today. He was talking with our new game warden who kayaks and patrols the river. He said that he is writing 10 tickets a day (could write more) and is writing a lot of warnings. But the interesting part is that he said the majority of the tickets are to FLY FISHERMEN! So just because you see someone with a fly rod in their hand don’t assume the are OK. Fly Fishing being “cool” doesn’t mean the people are.
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