Jerry
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So could you guys tell if all those boats were guide boats or just Tom, Dick and Harry? With a Bubba thrown in. ?
Yep, my wife drove by what we call “ The Cheap Seats”, the parking area by the No Parking sign across from the Horseshoe. She counted 12 vehicles and couldn’t count anymore!
And thank you all who worked on the stocking!
Thank for the info Bill!
I sent you a PM
Jerry
Well unfortunately I think those are all nice dreams. First of all you have to remember that the lease accesses are all on private property, either someone’s home or a business. And those businesses also allow pay to park/fish. They very well may not want a rent-a-cop hanging around their property. There are homes and rental properties all along the river, neighborhoods with gated access and thousands of property owners accessing the river. Anybody can hop in a raft or a kayak and float/fish every inch of the river. How in the heck are you going to patrol all of that?
There is also a article in the TU bylaws about not allowing special or tiered status, I can’t remember how it is worded but I remember that LAP was walking a thin line on breaking that regulation. Maybe one of the officers can chime in on this. But, I think raising the rates to weed folks out etc is is only going to exacerbate the issue.
The simple solution IMHO is to lobby for what most (if not all?) trout fisheries have is a true quality water fishery. Artificial only, absolutely no bait allowed and catch and release. Not the whole river but a LAP section that we stock. THEN we have to get the wardens to actually float the and patrol the river. The ones we had talk to us didn’t want to get wet! We need to look at how much money we spend on trout, tally up the income that it brings into the area and push for some changes. All it will do is improve the fishing and we can have a much more enjoyable experience.
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I was going to edit my post but I’ll just add it here.
What I really dream about is a true “Quality Water” section. And that is where LAP stocks fish.
This “access” problem happens every time we have a low flow year. As long as there is “pay to park” areas close to LAP areas the average fisher person can wander anywhere along the river. I too have been on my soap box beating the C&R ruling and I wish GRTU and TU National would use some of their power and monies to lobby for it. But, this is Texas. I do wish GRTU would change their Facebook (and wherever else) ads to not advertise all the big fish that here to be harvested but to educate the public on where those fish come from and proper catch and release technique. Maybe even post the Guadalupe regs so that there is no “gee I didn’t Know” excuse.
Thanks for posting this JC, I always wondered how fly fishing comps worked.
Man I think the worst part would be having the Judges, which are your peers AND fellow competitors, watch you while you fished!
This is great! I’m not only visually picking up tips on patterns to tie I’m also learning how messy my fly box is!
Thanks for the update Jimbo! I just got around to reading it and as usual it got me salivating to go fish. This will definitely need to be a new chapter in your book. “The day I went Euro!” ?
Well since sign up is roughly 24 hours away it looks like things will be as they are and hopefully with a server that is going to do it’s job.
But I would just like to give Y’all something to think about. There are many that have been LAP members for years (myself included ) that for one reason or the other did not get on this year. So to say that because you are on this year you have a right to be given first shot is completely unfair to those that have given their support in the past.
Secondly, saying that because you helped stock fish you should also be given special treatment is selfish and inconsiderate. There are many TU members who aren’t as young or as healthy as they once were and can’t schlep a 50 pound bucket of sloshing fish down to the river anymore. Other than that there is not a lot to do at a stocking except possibly cause more of a traffic jam (we did have a traffic accident one year) take up more parking spaces and just plain get in the way! This year though I may just do what Pat has so graciously and humbly done in the past and go around with my grabber and pick up trash around the LAP sites because I too can no longer schlep a bucket.
Remember this is a TROUT UNLIMITED thing, it is not, or cannot be a “special club”.
There is truth in all of these comments, some more realistic than others. Last season I was on my way back from camping in Arizona, planned on being back in the afternoon and “thought” I could still jump on and register. WRONG! So it was and I made due. I felt good about letting someone else have a chance. Kind of.
So, now what? After seeing the debacle today I feel the only fair, and amicable way to do it is to have a lottery. If say all 2000 bought a ticket, let’s say for $10. Then GRTU draws for 750 winners (personally I would prefer fewer) then those “winners” would pay for their LAP badge, say $120. If they decline it goes to the next inline. No preferences, no needing to take off work and no computer malfunctions.
Well Jimbo, your mission (should you decide to accept it) will be to report back after taking these guys up on their gracious offer. All naturally without breaking any non disclosure agreements. Knowing how you usually fish and all the places you go it will be interesting to hear your take on all things, everything from rods to breaking old habits. 🙂
All great topics for conversation. The only way I could see an amicable partnership with them is for them to allow LAP access, on BOTH sides of the river in exchange for TU stocking that section. The positive for TU would also be that we would be on the river to help “educate “ the residents of the subdivision on trout fishing. (Hopefully, maybe, ya think?)
I agree about not stocking this stretch of the river. And since they are touting the “access to trout” it is going to be even worse, especially since this developer is now on both sides of the river.
As far as access goes if you look at the property map the lots go almost down to Patio Pool, those lots are sold as 100+ ft of river front so wading up will probably be a fight.Bottom line, urban sprawl at its finest.
Oops sorry, didn’t see it. Probably from the tears in my eyes!
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