Jimbo
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You need to use the car you registered when signing up for the LAP. If you have a second vehicle you use and/or your license plate number changes for any reason during the season, please email the new number, along with your name and LAP Number to Robilyn Pettit at PettitR@GRTU.ORG
Whitewater Amphitheater and Whitewater Camping are no longer part of our Lease Access Program. TPWD no longer leases public access from Whitewater Amphitheater like they did in the past. You’ll be able to park at Whitewater Amphitheater only if you can pay for that access at the office. The office is not always open during the winter months. If it is open you can pay to park and access the river. Don’t try to park there if you don’t pay for access because your vehicle can be towed.
Jimbo
It depends on the water depth, current speed, the weight of the fly, and how fast you retrieve it. Until you get to water depths more than about 4 feet with these flows you probably don’t need a sink tip or sinking line unless you are striping it really fast. There are some places like between Little Ponderosa and Lazy L&L that the water is so deep to fish most of it you’ll probably want a full sinking line. It’s all situational.
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Brian C. Yes you can go to a commercial outfitter and pay for the additional person with you and Still Be legal with the LAP rules.
Fred. Again a LAP member may take only one person (Non-LAP member) at a time with him using the Guest Pass. As I suggested earlier the only way you can take more than that is to get other LAP members to go with you so you still meet the: One Lap member taking one non LAP member with a guest pass. Or you could go to one of the commercial outfitters and pay for each additional child you want to take along.
Jimbo
Yeap, Dan’s at the helm now, and has the final say on when we will stock. I am still on the BOD and the Fishery Committee. And yes there will be an e-mail blast sent out to notify all the LAP members about a week before the stocking will occur so you can make a plan to attend. Stocking days are really pretty special! There’s the excitement of getting back together with all you fellow anglers, time to catch up, 100’s and 100’s of Trout going into the Guadalupe at our access points, kids young and old bouncing around to and from the river, and all these healthy Trout swimming off into their new homes. With the holdover and all these additional Trout it should be a terrific season. One thing I’ll be doing some beforehand is fishing for Stripers because there certainly are some big ones in the river again. Barking Dog Pool down to S Turn Rapids (also Maricopa, Little Ponderosa, Lazy L&L, Rocky Beach) has some giants that need to be removed. So get up in the dark and be ready at first light. Head to deep water with your 8wts, heavy tippet, (I would suggest at least 15lb) and some big streamers (Lunch Money, Dirty Hippie, Left’s Deceiver, etc.). Let’s see how many we can get before our first stocking!
Jimbo
Don’t count your eggs as chickens just yet. It only takes 3 or 4 days of 90+ weather with these low flows to really take a toll on the fishery. It’s usually about the first week of December that the possibility goes away historically. That being said the upper basin caught about 1″ of rain, but nothing like the 3-7″ we had here in San Antonio. But the heavy rains did hit the lake itself and it came up almost 1/2 foot. Not bad at all. Still we need a lot of Rain…. So…..
Tom tom tom tom…
Tom tom tom tom…
Tom tom tom tom…
Let it rain buckets !
Jimbo
You could get another LAP member/friend to go along with you and therefore still take both your son and grandson. This is an old rule designed to have parents/grandparents close at hand to those children in case there is a dunking or other emergency. It was designed to make sure we don’t have an heartbreaking incident with a young angler on the river. I don’t think it is mentioned in the current orientation. The present orientation was one thrown together last year when we changed forum formats/servers.We still need to update the current orientation process for this new forum to include this and some other items.
Jimbo
Yes, each day you take a non-LAP member fishing you must pay for that day pass. Also each LAP member can take just one non-LAP member on GRTU leases with the Day Pass per day. It was a problem noted only after the new system was in place. It requires that you pay every time for each day pass on the honor system. I mentioned this to the Board and asked that we track the sales of day passes because the way it’s set up a person could pay for one day and just keep copying the blank page day pass. You are also supposed to fill out all the blanks on the day pass for the day it used. We even thought about having members send in the filled out day passes for a prize so we could track that activity and even contact the non-LAP member to check on their experience. But the Board never followed through on that.
Jimbo
I got to know Doc over the years when I was V P of Fisheries. He loved the river and his house there. He was an enthusiastic flyfisherman and I would take him out on the river when the flows were lower and he could wade. He loved just to get hooked up on a Trout. His later years were not kind to him. He developed cancer and beat it back off and on, but it left him pretty shaky on his feet. I had to be right by his side at all times to steady him. And fortunately over the years he did catch some good fish while on the river. He was a friend of GRTU and leased his property year round at a very reasonable rate. He was always smiling and laughing and he will be missed. Smooth sailing Doc !
Jimbo
The old Rocky Beach was bought by the owners of Lazy L&L. It is a seasonal LAP site again this season. As far as parking goes. we’ll talk to them and figure that out, then get back to you.
Jimbo
As for flows you can always refer to GBRA’s website of the releases under the conditions header.
https://gbra.org/conditions/default.aspx
There’s lots of other data there you can look at if you’re interested.
Jimbo
Of course that new Lazy L&L lease will not be open till Nov 1st because it a new lease this season. If you are driving downstream on River road, you will pass River Bluff, then there will be about 5 or 6 houses on the left, the first large open spot with a green metal gates is the new lower Lazy L&L site. There will be a lock on the gate with our new combo Nov 1st. And of note it is a seasonal site Nov 1- March 31.
Jimbo
The last couple of years the password has been the new combo for the locks. Not sure what it is this year and remember the leases for this season (2019-2020) are not open till Nov 1st anyway (old year round leases are still open for the 2018-2019 season).
The new lease is about half-way between River Bluff and Lower Rio. It makes it easier to get down there for older gentlemen like me. It also adds more parking spaces and makes it easier to spread out. Last year there were a bunch of fish right in that riffle below the old Cable Pool. Getting any new leases in spots where there is wadable water is getting hard to come by. Dan Cone and myself are still trying to add something around Whitewater/306. Hopefully we get something before the first stocking.
Jimbo
Watch for the home page for the meeting’s announcement. The board has been trying to make GRTU meetings more accessible for members in other locations like Austin last year. So I haven’t heard where the first meeting is going to be yet, but I bet you at least one meeting will be in someplace like Houston or Dallas this year.
Jimbo
Water temps coming out of the dam are still pretty good considering the lack of rain over the summer. That being said, the main problem we have right now is the air temps still well into the 90’s. This heats up the water coming downstream pretty quickly at these flows (110cfs https://gbra.org/). When we start seeing overnight temps in the 50’s and day temps in the 80’s the cold water will get further downstream and we can start fishing again without much to worry about. So watch the forecasts, and take water temps when you go. Many years I would already be fishing by now, but these 90+ days have kept me off the water. I am still waiting myself a while longer.
Jimbo
