Jimbo
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Sites with good banks to flyfish (needing back cast room) from: Rio, #5 (some above the weir), Rocky Beach (once you can cross the river), CVC, and Lower Rio. Many other have banks you can spin fish (no back cast necessary).
Jimbo
No problem, Stocking remains a Go !!!
Jimbo
I will check into the flow increases….. I just checked and there is no notice on the GBRA or WORD sites. Things will be closed tomorrow, but I will check again on Friday. If flows increase to 3000cfs, I think we should postpone. But until I know for sure the flows will be that high next Friday Nov 30th, we must plan that this is still a go to stock.
Jimbo
I would recommend either ski type gloves or thick leather work gloves. The buckets we haul to the river have rope handles and with the water and the Trout weight about 45lbs or so. I’ve hauled many without gloves, but gloves just make it easier on your hands through the course of the day.
Jimbo
Mhamletts
Are you saying someone Caught Rainbow Trout that were less than 12″? How big were they? Where and how many were caught? If these caught fish were about 6″ this would mean the fry produced from Trout in the Classroom survived the summer and are growing as no fish this small have been stocked yet this year.
Jimbo
Yeap, once the stocking truck rolls down River Rd. the local gossips seem it their responsibility to tell everyone. We do strive to only tell LAP members before hand and they seem to be able to keep the secret up to the stocking date. The other news was that a vigorous cold front rolled through yesterday and the bite was significantly off, so the weather is providing an extended acclimation period.
Jimbo
I think more than anything else, yesterday’s poor fishing can be attributed to the cold front that blew through in the morning. There’s one thing I’ve learned over the years when I was tournament Bass fishing is that drastic swings in weather and barometric pressure can cause swallow water fish to get lockjaw. When we were fishing tournaments steady weather was the best weather to fish. When it changed rapidly we had to go deep to find any kind of a bite. On the Guadalupe there is really not much water that I would consider deep, and I’m talking about 25-30 feet deep, plus our Trout wouldn’t hang out there if we had it. It’s not their nature in river systems. That really only happens in deep lakes where they reside.
The Guadalupe and our trout are all really shallow water fish. When the weather starts to stabilize things will again start to pick up. The right technique effectively executed will get you a few fish when the bite is off, but it generally won’t get you 30 fish. And that’s not to say someone didn’t catch double digits yesterday. It can happen when you’re right on top of a pod of fish. Sometimes you can get a competitive bite because fish are trying to get to a single meal first with so many fish looking at it. So don’t beat yourself up. To tell you the truth, I saw it coming and didn’t fish yesterday myself when normally I would have being right after a stocking.
Jimbo
Cassio, It’s all good, I was talking about handling the buckets. You are right, I would never recommend wearing gloves while fishing, even the ones used for UV protection, if it’s not wet skin you will remove more fish slime than you want to.
Places we stocked today: Maricopa, Tubers Loop above Whitewater Camping, Kanz (not a lease site, but fills in the gaps and in these flows fish will move downstream to places like the Half Way Riffle), Rio, #5, S Turn rapids (not a site, but again filling in the gaps), Pott’s, Little Ponderosa, Lazy L&L Office and Devil’s Playground, Action Angler, and CVC. The Fish were in real good shape, not a single floater today. They were a little bigger than average, but Marvin told me they would be, and we will get more numbers of 14-16″ fish the next 2 Rainbow stockings.
Now the flows are still real high for most people. If you decide to wade fish, use extreme caution. If you can’t see your feet, use your wading stick to tap the bottom ahead of you before taking the next step. Assume most of the river has changed because of the recent 3000cfs flows. You will not be able to cross the river in these flows with very few exceptions. I suggest to stay on the side you started till flows drop below 500cfs. I also recommend using heavier tippet and bigger flys until the water clears or flows drop. Be careful and have fun.
Jimbo
It is true the Half Marathon will be run tomorrow. I was made aware of this and talked to the people running it. It starts at 7:30am at Summit and runs toward Gruene. They should be well clear of the sites we are going to stock downstream before we get there. That being said do not attempt to approach Rio by coming up River Rd. From IH35 use Hwy 306 crossing the river and turning left on to 2673 and then onto River Rd. You will be fine. I also talked to Rio management where runners are going to be dropped off, but they will not be parking their vehicles there, so again GRTU volunteers will have no problem parking there. See you in the morning.
Jimbo
Cassio
I recommend bringing gloves because the buckets used to carry the fish to the river have rope handles and they are heavy when loaded. So gloves make carrying those buckets full of water and with their precious cargo a little easier. And yes many folks will want to touch these fish, but please don’t while stocking. They are already stressed from the ~20 hour trip from the hatchery, and even without gloves we don’t want to add to that stress. And lastly I would ask that everyone give these fish at least 24 hours before fishing for them. Thanks for listening and following these suggestions.
Jimbo
Flows are continuing to drop as GBRA ramps down their releases, currently 602cfs.
Jimbo
Looks like we are going to have a big crowd this first stocking. Without giving anything away we will have a second stocking soon. This stocking will be the most labor intensive as we will stock our lower sites and put more fish on our upper sites. So we will need the most hands to accomplish our stocking strategy then. If you can only do one of these stockings come to the second.
That being said everyone is welcome to come for this first stocking. Plan on carpooling with others at Rio to avoid a big traffic jam at our sites and on River Road. So once you are there start talking to others there with crew cabs and big SUVs to double up. Again bring your waders, boots, gloves, and dress for the weather. See everyone there.
Jimbo
GBRA is stepping down the flows again today. Looks like they be settling around 640cfs. With the inflows of 528cfs and dropping now, continue to watch the releases for another drop. At 640cfs even the biggest burliest wader will have trouble wading the river. I would continue to wait till flows drop below 600cfs as there are not many places where you can cross the river at these flows. The good news is there will be places where you can fish the edge of the river you’re standing on, but use extreme caution, don’t proceed if you can’t see or feel the bottom of the river in front of you with your wading staff (another must have item in high flows, if you don’t have one GET ONE and use it).
Also it is important to understand that the recent 3000cfs flows will have changed the river bottom in many places. Don’t assume the river you are trying to fish is the same as last year. Assume it changed and take your time to avoid going under. If you do get dunked in your waders (always use a wading belt and keep it tight) swim perpendicular to the bank and don’t stop till you get there. Never try to swim against the current! Assume the current will carry you downstream some distance and look for your exit spot there. Once on the bank, then dump excess water out of your waders and go get into some dry cloths to avoid hypothermia. This is a good time to think about bringing a change of clothes, from your head to your toes, and a towel for just such a reason. BE SAFE out there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jimbo
Good question, Dustin Scott is doing most the work on the forum. He started out talking to me when I asked and it sounded like: Blah. blah, blah,…. I’m a flint and steel guy whose understanding of electronic devices and softwear ends with the electric blub. He did say something about it being easier for those joining to be automatically entered into the LAP member data base. Other than that I’m clueless.
I liked the old forum myself, but I can’t design any softwear or a website, so I don’t have a choice about it.
Jimbo
schmitz
When it’s real cold, ski gloves work the best being waterproof. When it’s warmer just good old cheap leather work gloves. They get wet but it doesn’t really matter. You make the call, their your hands after-all.
Jimbo
