wiscoy
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Jimbo,
While I too get up early and buy my pass first thing on the 1st, this year me and hundreds of our fellow anglers had the same idea and the system crashed. It took me 3 hours to accomplish the task at hand that used to take 10 minutes and then ended up with 2 memberships for a short time. Basically, the current system no longer works as intended and some charges need to be made. I suspect that this year there will be even more trying to get their pass at 7AM on the 1st and have no doubt that the system will again experience issues. Therefore, what we suggested was for a way for those of us that have supported the program the longest to be granted some form of early access to renew our pass before going out to the general public. This does not seem unreasonable. The early access could simply be setting up a queuing system (https://www.qmatic.com/solutions/queue-management/), like Ticketmaster does when they sell tickets online, allowing past LAP members to go online say 30 minutes earlier to get a spot in line to renew their access permits. An email blast could be sent to those with 5+ years of program membership with a an access code to begin the process. Will this work? I have no idea, but we are at least trying to make the system work for all of us. One last point about the queue system, it would give Dustin control over how many can access the site at any given time and provide control to stop the system from crashing.
Hope your Rockies fishing trip has been productive 🙂
SYOTR, assuming I can renew my access this year………..
Ron
PS: Just checked Texas Hill Country FF site lease program and even they offer renewals to previous members BEFORE going to the public – https://thcff.org/trout-lease, I suspect we could learn something here…………
Thanks Jimbo,
Glad to hear you are out fishing the Rockies, enjoy 🙂
All the things you just named about Trout Fest, Kid’s Camp et al are exactly the things that could have been provided in a newsletter. There is no reason that it could not have happened, Covid or not.
Concerning your comment, “LAP will probably be a mad dash for membership signup again”, I agree with Alex. I think that prior to the October 1st signup that all the veterans that have been members of the LAP for 5+ years should be offered the chance to renew their LAP membership before putting them on sale to the rest of the public. This approach would probably fill ~ 300-400 spots leaving the rest, ~450-550 memberships, available to new members. I believe this would be the fairest approach that could be implemented with the least amount of pain to the process. Remember that over the last 20 years (years I have been LAP member) there were some seasons we barely sold all the LAP memberships. So us long term members need to be provided an opportunity to continue to support the program, that probably would not exist today if not for our continued support over the years, and make the renewal process more responsive to the less computer savvy veterans.
Ron
Yes Alex, apparently no one cares.
Ditto, nice looking fly.
Wiscoy
Hey not a problem just wasn’t sure if you were aware that seasonal leases had closed.
Wiscoy
Not sure if you are aware, but that lease closed March 31st and unless you went to L&L and paid to fish there you were trespassing . Pls review all the seasonal sites and note that they are now all closed.
Wiscoy
Mushroom Rock. Upstream of Pott’s and downstream of s-turn is only place I can think of that meets this criteria.
Wiscoy
Thanks Dan. Your diligence is appreciated.
Ron
Kevin,
No, no fish there. As a matter of fact no fish anywhere at this site. 🙂
The shackle/shank of the lock was visibly bent last time I was there. Looked like it had been forced open and took me a few minutes to get it to lock again.
Ron
Alex,
Just think, this could be the last year you will have to put up with the early mornings, nasty weather and stream side crowds since you will be retiring this year – if that is still the plan. If so, here are a few things you will soon realize. You will be able to pick which days you fish, what weather you will fish in and at what time of day you wish to fish. With the colder weather I stopped arriving at dawn and now have a nice breakfast and wait for the temps to rise before heading out to the river. It kind of reminds me of fly fishing back east when used to wait until 9 or 10AM before heading out to fish the early season daily mayfly hatch – hendrickson, march browns et al. Enjoy my friend and SYOTR.
Tight lines,
Ron
Alex,
I assume you know this because you are out fishing?
Ron
Alex,
Glad you had a chance to get out and fish. As far as the number of fishermen, I agree that with the low water it is hard to find any privacy and will probably remain that way until we get some significant rains. Problem is that when it does rain, we will probably get too much. The other thing with the low water is that the fish, like the anglers, cannot spread out either. I have hit a few spots that always hold fish and found them totally barren. Only thing we can do is hope that the good Lord provides us with the resources we need.
Ron
Apparently, the purpose of this post has eluded the masses. I was just being a bit nostalgic and comparing the times spent in my youth trying to catch uninterested trout in a fish tank at the boat show with a zebco and pork rind to the pods of fish in the river that have reacted the same way – uninterested. As far as catching fish at Pott’s, I did very well, but found it interesting that so many fish had no interest in what I was offering.
Tight lines,
Wiscoy
Army Corps of Engineers (ACE). Since they have ultimate control of the dam any modification to the river has to be approved by them.
Yes, we were working with TPWD to consider adding a wing dam or some lunker sites around the Pott’s area. We had a good idea where to put these and even did some analysis with, as I remember, a TU representative, but cannot be sure about that. The initial feed back we received was that getting approval from ACE to install structures in the river would be very difficult since these structures move during high water and could cause problems and may create hazards for tubers, kayaks, and just general use of the river.
Concerning the spillway creek stabilization to stop the flow of silt, it was suggested that the best way to fix this problem was to grade both banks for some distance of between 100-500 yards from the entrance to the river and then cover with rip rap or plant grass. Both of which would cost money and again would need to be approved by ACE. In addition, would likely need to plant some willows at the river interface and may need some form of weir here too in order to help trap the silt which would create a long term expense to keep cleaned out.
So while making changes to the river to improve the fishery is a high priority for GRTU, you can see we are up against a government entity that really is not that concerned with the fishery IMHO. So what to do? Good question. I suspect that we, GRTU, as an organization should work on the problems we can actually address i.e. trash in the river, stop the poaching of the trout, and generally be a good neighbor to the land owners so we can keep our leases. Is it perfect? no, but is probably the best we can do right now.
Wiscoy
Good ideas, but not realistic since anything we try to put in the river has to be approved by ACE. We tried to get a plan to add some in stream structures a few years ago , but with the tubers et al was an uphill battle that did not have much support from the state .
Wiscoy
