Alex Argyros
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Thanks for the link. It is very informative.
My own view on the subject is that, if one wants a photo of a trout, one should photograph the fish in the net or in the water. Lifting a fish up, or placing it on the bank, no matter how carefully done, reduces the fish’s chances of survival.
Nothing is really safe at these flows, and all of the leases, and water between, can be productive if you hit them, and fish them, right.
I would choose a spot where I didn’t feel the temptation to cross the river. For example, you might try Ponderosa or Maricopa.
Alex
I, too, would like to know how it went. And thanks to all the people who helped.
Yes, go to the next stocking. The information you will get there will be invaluable, plus you will be participating in a good cause. But, from a purely selfish perspective, attending a stocking is almost as good as spending a day with a guide and you don’t have to tip Jimbo.
Unless you know a homeowner, the only access to the Horseshoe is Whitewater Sports (or paying at Whitewater, which is farther downstream).
But, I don’t really understand your question. The wall of which you speak is a short distance upstream from Whitewater Sports.
Alex
Our stockings are pretty much a public secret. It doesn’t take much imagination for a local to figure out what our truck looks like or what it’s doing.
Some people will abuse their lawful access to the trout now in the river. Poaching can be pretty flagrant at times. Keep a phone handy and call the game warden if you see behavior that doesn’t seem legal.
Alex
My advice is the same regardless of the flows: for the most part, it is a good idea to get your flies within 8″ or so from the bottom. Of course, there are times when the fish are feeding higher up in the water column, but, day in day out, near the bottom is where you get the most success.
I think that people spend far too much time worrying about pattern and not enough time about depth. I nymph exclusively, so my advice is about nymphing. It’s easy to get your flies to the bottom in whatever flows you encounter (attach them to a big hunk of lead, for example). The balancing trick involves having enough weight to reach bottom but also allow a relatively drag free drift. So, instead of changing flies, you should be changing weight and placement.
In general, the more upstream you cast, the deeper your flies get. So, in fast water, concentrate on casting upstream. If you rely on the flies themselves for weight (beadheads, etc.), change flies often until they are hitting the bottom occasionally. If you use lead, change the lead. The goal, in whatever circumstance, is the same: a somewhat natural drift near the stream bottom.
Many here have asked essentially the same question, but I can’t find an answer. Could someone explain the reason for the new forum? What about the old forum needed fixing and how does the new forum solve these problems?
I should be able to help.
Alex
Yes, it must be the flows. There are many trout from Rio upstream, both rainbows and browns.
Alex
Thanks, Cassio. I must have replied to the wrong post.
About soft hackle feathers, I love using hen necks. A few of these provide tons of feather in a kinds of sizes.
Alex
Thanks, Jimbo.
Is “Whitewater Camping” the same as “Whitewater Sports?”
Also, will we be stocking there in addition to, or in the place of, JDL?
Alex
If you go to a fly fishing competition and ask the top competitors what they used, you’ll find that a wide range of patterns was successful. What this fact suggests is that, on most days, presentation trumps pattern.
I suggest that you tie one standard pattern in a number of sizes and then focus on presentation.
As to the pattern: try a Walt’s Worm (which is simply dubbing on a hook, with our without a bead).
Alex
I’m not sure why you exclude suckers from your list, but they are worthy quarry on the Guadalupe. There are many more suckers than trout in our waters, but we catch many fewer. The clear conclusion is that suckers are much more difficult to entice to a fly than trout, so more of a prize. And they do eat the same sort of small nymphs that we use to catch trout.
Alex
I must agree that the old forum was superior. Could the administrators chime in with their reasons for switching to this format?
